Dear Persuader,
Do you have a name for your Other Than Conscious self?
What a great way to start a relationship with it. After all, would you want to be largely ignored and without a name your whole life?
Start thinking in terms of two selves living in your body. Actually there are 3.
Let’s start with your Other Than Conscious
Some names it has been referred to over time are:
Subconscious Basic Self Deep Self Intuitive Self Inner Self Real Self And the great, copy writing legend Gary Bencivenga calls it his “Gentle Giant”.
Your Other Than Conscious self is best thought of as an independent entity.
It is very literal. And it is subject to suggestion.
The Other Than Conscious is the store house of your memories.
It has the power of deductive logic only.
It controls your autonomic bodily functions.
Based on the input it has been given, it is your “conscience”. In other words it is in charge of what you believe is right and wrong. Another good definition of conscience is, “it is a conviction or being conscious of a custom”. Through repetition and emotion these customs become ingrained and automatically depended upon to supply beliefs of right and wrong.
Your Other Than Conscious generates all your emotions.
It is the self that has connections to other people and places. And It is also said to have the power of telepathy. We’ll leave these for a later discussion.
Ok, now that you have a relatively complete picture of the Other Than Conscious self, let’s look at a few things.
You can begin to get ahead much faster and easier in life if you align with this self. Treating it like a trusted child is one really good way to begin the process.
If you do not have rapport with it, you will experience life as if you are constantly being sabotaged. So gaining and maintaining rapport with this self is critical to living a happy, fulfilling and easy life.
That said, it’s not necessarily easy. In a way, it is like a puppy who is untrained – then grew into an adolescent. It has it’s ways and beliefs and just waking up one morning and treating it nice will not cause the puppy to behave as you might wish. Yes, the puppy loves you but still wants to do what it has always done.
This is another way of saying it can be stubborn. Don’t believe me? Tried losing weight or changing a habit or trying to change to a more healthy partner type as your preference? Now you are beginning to get the picture.
So where to start. Well, start as you would any relationship. Talk, be respectful. Show it with words and pictures the things you like and would like to become.
Here’s something important – your Other Than Conscious self depends on the 5 senses for data input!
Some final points for this post:
1. It is with the Other Than Conscious selves of others that we need to have rapport with, if we are to persuade. These are where the rapport strategies are aimed that I teach.
2. it is this self that is suggestible. The issue is getting past the gate keeper which is very easily done when you know how. Thus, studying how to deliver suggestions is part and parcel to becoming a great persuader.
3. It is in your own life where you will reap the fastest rewards. Apply what you are learning to yourself first. Gain the trust and respect of your Other Than Conscious self and watch your results soar. Just remember, it is a process. And I’ll help you learn it as we proceed.
4. One of the best tools you can start using immediately is directed day dreaming. (Think Einstein riding on a beam of light.) This is best done in a learning state of mind such as you enter when meditating etc.
5. Consider giving this self a name. Don’t do this lightly. Remember, a good name can get you far. And you might consider keeping this name private for now at least. Consider carefully what names it might like. Reflect on them as you narrow them down. Then go with your gut instinct as you choose the one that fits best.
6. Love and accept your Other Than Conscious self. Really – I’m not being funny. Woo it. Praise it. Reward it. Most importantly, start now!
7. Remember that this is a process and takes time. Rome wasn’t built in a day – neither were your beliefs, attitudes and conscience. It will take some work and dedication. Just remember and keep in mind what you are playing for… an incredibly happy, fulfilling and easy life where people automatically look up to you, respect you, accept your suggestions and look forward to doing business with you. Not to mention the respect and incredible love you will have for yourself. Not bad stakes to play for, right?
Ok, let me know your thoughts on this. If you like it, I’ll get into the powers and role of the conscious mind next and how you can easily learn how to use it’s superior reasoning powers to your advantage to more quickly bring your Other Than Conscious self eagerly running to participate.
Keep studying and practicing.
Kenrick
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19 Comments
Hi Kenrick: Very thought provoking! I’ve been aware of my “OCS” for a long time and she has a name: “Little Lucy.” So named because she’s the one who keeps saying: “You’re not the boss of me!!” and sabotaging my effort at self-discipline and growth! I started inviting her to come along. telling her how much fun we are going to have, but she is very suspicious. She says I didn’t listen to her years ago, when I was going through some rough times. If I had, I might have gotten out of those situations much sooner. Ah, well — the past is past. “C’mon, L.L. Let’s move forward!”
Your blog has me thinking, though, Kenrick. Maybe the fact that I picture my “OCS” as a child is keeping her from growing up and working with my “CS” cooperatively. Maybe it’s time I “allowed” her to do that! What do you think?
Lucy in Paradise
Hi Lucy (and L.L.),
I love the name you gave her.
Some really good points you made. I’ll do my best to address them.
Your OTCS (Other Than Conscious Self) might be skeptical. Especially in the beginning. That you are communicating with it is a great start. Tell it that it can remain skeptical for now if it wants to and that you are going to prove to it times have change etc. Don’t force, coax.
Think carefully about the child part of your post. I’ll give you my ideas. To my way of thinking, this self is not really like a full grown up – like your conscious self. The main reason for this is it only has the power of deductive logic (an inferior form than the conscious mind can use). It’s job is not to decide, it’s job is to carry out what has been decided.
Here’s a good analogy. I had a dog named Pal. He was my best friend. I finally had to put him to sleep when he was 13 years old or so as he was very sick and in pain. His whole life I called him, “my pretty puppy”, even when he was older and clearly not a puppy. It was a term of affection. He knew his name was Pal, but he also knew it was, “pretty puppy”.
This is similar to your OTCS. It is not literally a child, but is literal like a child. It has many child like qualities. You should depend on her to help you get ahead. You should depend on her to carry out what was decided upon. But she should not be the one making the decisions.
When your OTCS is firmly on your side, you can make huge progress that you could not have otherwise.
Let me know if this helps.
As a person with a background in hypnotherapy, sales, and copywriting, I am very familiar with a lot of the information available on this topic…
I have to say, Kenrick, that this is one of my favorite concepts that you’ve come up with for a blog post topic I have seen. I have not heard anyone so seamlessly bridging all these different approaches to interpreting the Other Than Conscious self, and I am excited to hear more!
I remember an audio “self-hypnosis” you’d done in the past about your puppy “Pal” – and still to this day use it as one of my analogies to explain one’s relationship to the Other Than Conscious…
Great post
Thanks Marshall.
Your right about Pal, and I just wrote about him in response to a post about this article.
Glad you like this. Lots more coming.
Kenrick,
I am familiar with the concept of the OTCM, but I don’t recall ever hearing anyone talk about treating it (him, in my case) as a separate person within your body/mind/personality. Fascinating concept, and very useful when it comes to think about having complete congruence with your goals and intentions.
Very profound thought. Would love to hear more.
Thanks,
- John
Yes, it is profound. And more so as it gets implemented.
Think of complete congruence as with your OTCS as a greased shute to success.
[quote comment=""]Kenrick,
I am familiar with the concept of the OTCM, but I don’t recall ever hearing anyone talk about treating it (him, in my case) as a separate person within your body/mind/personality. Fascinating concept, and very useful when it comes to think about having complete congruence with your goals and intentions.
Very profound thought. Would love to hear more.
Thanks,
- John[/quote]
If you have not read Dr Marco Biagini(solid state physics) look up hiis article thru google. Reply positively or negatively after reading.
I think I understand what you’re saying but personally I’m not convinced that I have two (or more) selves living in my body, one of which is my “Other Than Conscious Self”. I think I have one self nearly all which operates outside of my conscious awareness; and a major part of that operation is the organisational component which just runs data by association, which means it has its own version of reality that’s not necessarily a reflection of actual reality. Hence the human capacity for irrational behaviour when we respond not to what’s actually happening but to what we imagine is happening. I haven’t given a name to my self of which I have no present moment awareness, but that’s a very good point. Perhaps I shall call it “Bob”.
Hi Bob,
Any and every way of describing who we are could be considered a metaphor. Whether we are 1, 2, 3 or more is really just a way of trying to describe something.
The thing is, metaphor’s are very useful and helpful and when done well can give us ways in to a system. Ways to make changes, influence others and succeed. This is what this metaphor can help you do.
So… believe in what works for you. I’ll keep expanding on this to show how it fits together. But for now, consider that you have 3 unique beings inside yourself. Whether it’s 3 or 1 with 3 seemingly separate ways of expressing, I think this will help you in many ways. At least that is my goal.
If you have not read Dr Marco Biagini(solid state physics) look up hiis article thru google. Reply positively or negatively after reading.[/quote]
Don,
The article that I came across and went through (admittedly quickly) had to do with properties of mind, whether it could be explained by materialist thinking, holistic thinking (which he defines in the article), etc.
Interesting article. I especially appreciated his thoughts on how explanations of mind cannot be explained by materialist thinking. Of course, I already leaned towards that way of thinking, so, of course, I liked it.
I also find Candace Pert’s concepts about your body being your subconscious mind fascinating and useful.
I’m not sure if you were specifically referring to my mentioning congruence within a person’s body/mind system with their goals as I’m not sure exactly how what I read relates to that concept, so if you could explain your intentions with referencing Dr. Biagini’s writing, I’d be interested.
Regardless, I found the article interesting, and thank you for pointing me in that direction.
- John
John, when I get a chance I’ll look into the articles you mentioned.
Glad you liked this.
[quote comment=""]Hi Bob,
Any and every way of describing who we are could be considered a metaphor. Whether we are 1, 2, 3 or more is really just a way of trying to describe something.
The thing is, metaphor’s are very useful and helpful and when done well can give us ways in to a system. Ways to make changes, influence others and succeed. This is what this metaphor can help you do.
So… believe in what works for you. I’ll keep expanding on this to show how it fits together. But for now, consider that you have 3 unique beings inside yourself. Whether it’s 3 or 1 with 3 seemingly separate ways of expressing, I think this will help you in many ways. At least that is my goal. [/quote]
Here’s a real mind twister that applies….when you say you’re talking to your other than conscious mind…..that indicates 3 parties are present….The conscious Self, The other than Conscious Self and the third party that is aware of the difference. Who might that Be? Live with Intention, DrBillToth
Hi Bill,
That would be more like an “NLP” way of seeing it. I’d like to take this much deeper (and into much more ancient territory).
But it gets ahead of where we are right now. So to keep things simple, I’ll lay the ground work that comes before, first.
Great post (as usual)
My mind wanders a lot and doesn’t stay in boxes very well. So can we look at your thesis from another point of view?
My OTC self is me. The conscious mind I am trying to steer is my ego — a yammering obnoxious, bull-headed creation that thinks it is in charge of my life. It is my public persona and frequently doesn’t represent me as well as I’d like.
My challenge is to get that spoiled brat to calm down, listen to what I have to say, and to provide me with usable input for my decision making process.
With patience, we’ll become friends and partners. He needs my intelligence and insight and I need his active logic and energy. When we reach this goal of a loving partnership, great things will happen.
Now back to reality –
Sometime if we look at the unconventional version of things we learn something.
Just a couple of grumblings from an old curmudgeon and a rambunctious ego
John
John,
I like the way you look at this.
Personally I see this very differently though. The OTCS could be thought of as “you” but it is really more like the “deep you”. The “I am” is the conscious self.
I’ll try to remember to give a metaphor that more aptly describes this in my next part of this.
Dear Persuader, “Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances – to choose one’s own way.” – Victor Frankl Every time I hear someone talk about “thinking outside the box” I chuckle. Like any cliché or [...]
Like John, I see my ego as problematic but also unconscious behavior.
How do I build rapport with the OTCS when I see it as responsible for automatic responses that don’t serve me.
I believe the nature of this work is about a huge inner reframe of identity. I am not my ego… I am not my OTCS… so where within do I go to be in the drivers seat.
Always good to reconnect with your material Kenrick. I need to re-engage. :O)
Thanks. More coming next week.
This goes way beyond NLP so stay tuned.